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Provost proposes Saturday classes

Published: Monday, September 28, 2009

Updated: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 02:09

Citing low attendance in Friday classes, Provost Tom Apple has proposed instituting a six-day class schedule, meaning some classes would meet on Saturday.       

The proposal, still in the preliminary phases, would change all classes to a two-day-per-week schedule, rather than the current Monday-Wednesday-Friday and Tuesday-Thursday schedule.

On Sept. 14, Apple told the Faculty Senate  meeting that the change would encourage more students to attend their Friday classes. He said attendance at Friday classes is lower than other days because many students spend Thursday nights partying and never make it to class the following day.

"Fridays are disappearing from the academic calendar," Apple said at the meeting. By meeting twice a week, more pressure would be placed upon the student to attend both classes, he said.

Deputy Provost Havidán Rodríguez said the Faculty Senate is discussing the proposed change with the deans of all seven colleges and will continue discussing the issue at its next meeting on Oct. 5.

"We are now initiating preliminary conversations regarding class schedules and the effective utilization of our classrooms," Rodríguez said. "More importantly, we are focusing on new and innovative strategies to continue to increase and promote academic rigor and excellence in all the work that we do."

He said spreading out the schedule would also alleviate over-crowding of classes during peak times of the day.

The utilization rate of classroom space ranges from about 93 to 100 percent, between 9:30 am and 4:00 pm on Tuesdays and Thursdays, he said. On Mondays, Wednesday and Fridays, the utilization rate is around 90 percent from about 10:00 am to 2:00 pm. With that, the classroom utilization rates earlier in the mornings and during late afternoons are considerably lower.

Reaction among students hearing about the proposal was mostly negative..

Sophomore Jaclyn Marangella, a member of the university's track team said it is a horrible idea.

"Professors will not want to teach on the weekend, they want to spend time with their families," Marangella said.

She also said the track team lifts weights on Friday mornings, and tends to have meets or practices on Saturday mornings. Changes to the schedule would negatively impact how the track team would operate.

"If people decide not to go to class it's their loss," she said.   

Many students confirmed the existence of Thursday night as a prominent partying night, and did not hesitate to admit Friday was becoming less academically significant. 

"They should just embrace it," sophomore Samantha Tricoli said

According to the Faculty Senate Web site, the University Faculty Senate acts for the entire faculty in coordinating faculty governance at the university and in exercising the faculty responsibility for the education and care of students.

If any scheduling changes were made it would be up to the members of the Faculty Senate to vote on the issue.

"We are exploring alternatives that would increase the utilization rates of our classrooms during non-peak hours, which will also provide students with more alternatives regarding their class schedules and the availability of courses," Apple said.

   

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19 comments

BHA
Mon Oct 5 2009 18:07
As a tour guide, I can't imagine trying to explain to a prospective student that they'll have class six days a week... it's hard enough just telling them that we get out two or three weeks later in May than their friends going to other schools.
Your name
Mon Oct 5 2009 16:22
As stated above in several posts, Saturday classes simply will not improve attendance. UD does have an attendance policy, however, it is up to each professor in order to enforce the policies. As a student I hated Tuesday - Thursday classes. I felt they were too long and they lost my attention after 45 minutes. Thank goodness I have obtained my degree and do not have to consider the effects of having all hour and 15 min classes. When scheduling my classes I also tried to avoid these classes. Although I can see where the administration is trying to lessen the use of classrooms during peak times, are they in turn considering the electricity and energy increases that will affect the yearly budget of running lights and heating buildings longer? Because they will no doubt see a spike in those costs. Also, when I attended the University, I worked on Saturdays. Instituting Saturday classes may negatively affect a students ability to hold a job and provide for themselves, because lets face it not every student at the university has a mom and dad funded credit card. When I wasn't working on Saturdays, I often participated in extra-curricular activities that helped the community and brought good media coverage to the university. UD prides itself on being a school where most of the student body is active in several clubs. I remember several Saturdays where I would wake-up early and attend a tree planting or a river clean up with the Wildlife Society. Will these kinds of activities now be considered reasonable excuses for missing classes? Of course not, because you are still missing class and therefore required to cover the material on your own time. You will still be responsible for any missed material just like students are currently responsible for their own material. I think its funny that in an economy where several businesses are cutting back to four day work weeks to save money, the provost thinks its a good idea to increase the work week of its staff. As UD Mom said there will definitely come a breaking point to where students can no longer afford the tuition hikes and taking the class week to 6 days will only increase the yearly budget and then fall to the students to make up. The only person that likes this new plan will apparently be Provost Tom Apple
George Patsourakos
Mon Oct 5 2009 15:25
The University of Delaware's plan to have classes meet on Saturdays may be a good idea, since many students have been cutting their Friday classes.

By meeting twice a week -- instead of three times a week -- more pressure would be placed on students to attend both classes.

Your name
Wed Sep 30 2009 13:39
There is NO WAY this could possibly ever pass. Nothing good will come from it except unity of the majority of the UD community to fight against it.
Jewish Junior
Wed Sep 30 2009 12:46
I completely agree about the Jewish students. I think it is completely ignorant and absolutely inconsiderate that Jewish students would have to attend classes on their holiest day of the week. If Christians get Sundays off then it is only right that Jewish students should be allowed to observe the Sabbath. This is a public university, not a private one. It certainly is not a Christian school, and to force people of other faiths to choose between education and their religious practices is undeniably unethical.
Secondly, like everyone has already said, if a student fails to attend class it is their fault, and their fault alone (with extremely rare exceptions). Just because a subset of the school population drinks on Thursdays and skip Friday class, it in no way means that the rest of the students should be punished. I know plenty of people who drink on Thursdays and still attend class on Fridays. I also believe it is ridiculous that school schedules should become more rigorus due to socialized drinking habits. If this change is put in place, UD can expect a few things: stress/mental breakdown/suicide rates will increase, a decrease in the amount of attending students, and a definite decrease in potential students. To agitate and repel current students, prospective students, and faculty is the definition of a "bad idea". If the university wants to have a real "Path to Prominence" they will aim to accept and listen to the student body rather than make obscene bureaucratic decisions that benifit no one.
UD Mom
Wed Sep 30 2009 09:15
I'm having difficulty understanding the logic here. If professors are having trouble with getting students to attend Friday classes, why on earth would anyone expect compliance with SATURDAY classes?! Has Mr Apple taken into consideration the number of weekend activities that students are involved in that would conflict with such scheduling? Athletic games, marching band, BHA tours etc? Many better alternatives have been presented by the students themselves in the above comments. The online lectures suggestion is an excellent idea. And if professors feel that class participation is essential to their lessons, then they can institute rules that penalize those who don't show up. Why penalize everyone by disrupting the schedules of those who do come to Friday classes?
One more question: Will adding Saturday classes increase Delaware's budget in any way? Because frankly Mr Apple, 10% tuition increases for out of state students for each of the past 2 years, has already stretched us to the limits of what we are willing and able to afford!
UD MBA Alum KRC 2002
Wed Sep 30 2009 05:53
If this is also partly a space utilization issue, then UD should consider pushing online class delivery. Having professors convert classes to a mixed class format--some lectures delivered in the classroom, some delivered online---would allow students to log in and "take class" whenever they want. Many students do better in a standard classroom format, so a mixed class format would allow them the best of both: flexibilty and the classroom. Students could view class and class materials online, and then ask questions/interact in the next physical class session.
Jewish Delaware webmaster
Tue Sep 29 2009 17:38
Has nobody considered the impact on Jewish studies who take Friday night - Saturday as their Sabbath? Preparing homework as well as avoiding Sabbath synagogue attendance would be severe. And of course, many students take off the weekend to go home off campus.
I Miss UD
Tue Sep 29 2009 15:21
"No Saturday Classes" should probably enroll in a Saturday grammar/spelling course and learn the difference between loose and lose.
However, I don't see Dr. Apple's move as a "punishment." I think the man is just trying to figure out a way to lure students into the classroom and increase attendance. He saw that students like to enroll in two day per week classes between 9:30 and 4:00 and came up with this idea. (Unfortunately his idea isn't very good.)
Just hold students accountable for missing class or accept that sometimes college students aren't interested in sitting through lecture. There are many other ways to solve this issue that do not involve adding a day to the work week for professor, janitors, dining hall staff (UD Dining Hall opens later on weekends) and many other UD staff.
Here's an Idea
Tue Sep 29 2009 13:02
If they plan on changing it to two-day a week classes, why not just get rid of classes on Friday altogether and make Mondays and Wednesdays the same type of class time as Tuesday/Thursday classes. If they think students go out a lot on Thursday nights, they should look at the number of students that go out on Friday nights. I would never sign up for a class that meets on Saturdays.
Glad to be leaving
Tue Sep 29 2009 12:47
My view is this: who cares if some students aren't going to their classes on Fridays? Is that really the administration's problem? I don't think so. We are all adults here, and we make our own decisions and live with their consequences. Many professors already have attendance policies in their individual classes allowing a minimal number of absences before lowering grades or something similar. It is not Tom Apple's job to make students go to class. If they are comfortable paying sky-high tuition for nothing and missing important course material, then fine let them skip. Not to mention there are plenty of students who party their brains out Thursday nights and make it to class just fine the next day. Why punish them and those who regularly attend classes just because some students skip? The university does not need a policy trying to make kids care.
Blue Hen '87
Tue Sep 29 2009 12:13
A really bad idea, not to mention a lot of students like to go home on the weekends. I agree with what an earlier poster said--professors should make Friday classes mandatory with special exemptions ahead of time-and it would be a great day to have papers due, exams, etc. Also profs should be enforcing their attendance policies more, in order to encourage better attendance on Fridays.

Sounds like the real problem here is all the "partying" on Thursdays--what happened to the zero-tolerance alcohol policies of the administration? If you can't get kids out of bed for classes because they have hangovers, you have a bigger problem than low attendance!

terrible idea
Tue Sep 29 2009 11:39
How many new students do you think will chose to enroll at the only university in the country to require classes 6 days each week? This would not only be a terrible financial move for the university but also a huge strain on faculty, staff and students. There are better ways to deal with this problem without punishing students who actually do attend Friday classes and faculty who have families and lives outside of the university.
Your name
Tue Sep 29 2009 11:15
As a recent graduate, I don't think that this new class policy will go over well. Students will simply not attend class on Friday and Saturday. An alternative is to schedule exams/pop quizzes/ assignments that must be turned in due on Fridays. On another note, the Physical Chemistry department already schedules its exams to be held on Saturdays... (btw - they get full attendance)
No Saturday Classes!
Tue Sep 29 2009 11:14
This is the worst idea ever. Like mentioned above, it is the student's choice whether or not they attend class. If they do go they are not hurting anyone but themselves in the end. To enforce Saturday classes does not only affect students, but the professors as well. They loose time with their families and we students loose the only little time we have to relax, because come sunday it's right back to doing homework. I know I use my weekend most of the time to visit my family and friends at other colleges. Who is to say that students would not start neglecting Monday classes, to still give themselves that weekend. I see no logically understand how this could possibly be approved.
displeased
Tue Sep 29 2009 11:10
Instituting Saturday classes will do very little to motivate the student body to go to class. If Friday attendance is bad now, just think how much worse Saturday attendance would be. Not to mention the detrimental effects on both professors and students, as well as university staff. Professors will lose the time to spend with their families, their personal research and projects, and grading/course prep time. Students will lose the time which many use for serious studying, working on projects, meeting with groups, athletic practices or events, and time to decompress after a long week. With the amount of work many of us already put in, we need as much spare time as we can get to do it all, not less time and more classes. On top of all of that, a significant portion of students work to support themselves and pay tuition, and would no longer have time available in their schedules to put in a decent amount of hours at any job, IF a company would hire them with so little availability. Dr. Apple should consider the good students more in his decision to try Saturday classes, not just the irresponsible ones who party or just don't go on Fridays. That is their choice, and their problem, not the administration's. Consider the students, the faculty and staff, and the community before instituting such a drastic policy.
Your name
Tue Sep 29 2009 09:44
Perhaps a mandatory attendance policy for classes should be considered instead? Many universities require attendance as part of grading policies and some can even fail students for missing more than a minimal # of classes. Regardless, if students do not attend, they typically do not fare well... and that is the ultimate consequence.
Bad Apple
Tue Sep 29 2009 09:11
I don't think this is a good idea. Dr. Apple should treat students as adults - not kids. Those that for whatever reason don't make it to Friday classes - miss the class at their own risk. Apple's plan will effectively "punish" those that DID regularly attend all of their classes by making them go to class Sat. - which obviously is not desirable. Guess what Dr. Apple - don't you think that the kids that skipped a Friday class will be just as much, or even more inclined to skip a Saturday class??! My guess is that the total number of missed classes will INCREASE with this approach. Also, many students try to get some work hrs in on weekends to help pay for UD's steep/greedy tuition increases! This plan will present a financial harship to those students. Others may plan to go home on weekends to visit family - this will interfere with that as well. UD's marching band - 350 students or so, are involved with game preparations on fall saturdays (home games) - Sat. classes will be problemmatic. Likewise for various athletic teams. I suspect professors will not be too crazy about this idea either. Students are UD's "customers". In the business world it is axiomatic that the customer is always right. Dr. Apple - Let the paying "customers" VOTE on this proposal and see what their view is. This should not be rammed down students throats.
Your name
Tue Sep 29 2009 07:21
Back in the mid-fifties, early Saturday morning classes were routine at UDel, particularly for freshman-level and science/engineering-major students. I vividky recall dragging my weary body out of bed at 7AM on Saturday mornings to attend Professor Lynch's Physical Chemistry lecture in a Brown Chemistry Lab classroom. It really wasn't much fun. Downing a cup of always-bitter coffee from the nearby old Scrounge Lounge in the basement of what is now Memorial Hall was a necessary prerequisite for attending this lecture.






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