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Pushing one’s ideas will never initiate logical debate

Using the First Amendment right does not mean one should push mindless arguments.

junior, jaceli@udel.edu

Published: Monday, May 9, 2011

Updated: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 01:05


The glaring eyes and gaping mouths of hundreds of UD students marked the beginning of one of the most controversial moments on campus last April.

Last week, we were forced to relive these moments. Some put their heads down and quickened their pace while others stopped to take in the horrifying display strategically in the middle of the South Green. Pictures of Holocaust victims, lynched African-American men and open graves of genocide victims had been plastered right next to abortion pictures on the billboards.

Between the pictures and writing, it was clear those who posted the display despised abortion and equated it to genocide. Over the two-day period hundreds of students gathered, protesting the anti-abortion display. Standing in front of the images were members of the Center for Bioethical Reform, ready to argue their display.

As I watched all of these events unfold, a deep anger came upon me. Yes, I was angry-—this group equated the Holocaust and the enslavement of African-Americans to abortion—but my deep anger came from disbelief. With a history filled with many years of fighting for equality, human rights, and freedom, this group had used the First Amendment in order to push their negative agenda. They turned the UD campus into something short of a hospital medical products dumpster. How could we spend so much of our blood, sweat and tears to create a liberating country only to revert back to such childish and disrespectful behavior? If I was a prospective student or a parent of a prospective student, and I had taken a tour on a day with this display up, I probably wouldn't want to come to UD.

The reality is that even though The Green marks the path between residence halls and class buildings, it is property open to university students and organizations. Thus, the university must OK displays but cannot discriminate against a particular group. Therefore, when many students voiced outrage toward the gruesome anti-abortion display, the university just responded with a mediocre, prepared response stating they were not liable for any displays and the group had the right to be there because of the First Amendment.

Do I think the First Amendment should be dissolved? Absolutely not. But I do believe that a change needs to happen. We should not take for granted the gift of freedom and use it as a security blanket. We have abused liberty too much and we should all take a giant step back. As much as I wish for this to end simply by holding hands and skipping through daisies, it is simply unrealistic. With this larger problem, I see a few smaller issues that can be tackled easily.

Firstly, we have to break our egocentric and ethnocentric view. While other nations have nationalism, we have patriotism and the ever-changing implications of being an American. Unfortunately, the label of being an American has started to regain its tarnished meaning from the Puritan Era. Originally, being an American was meant as being cowardly or wimpy and, in some cases, savages. We have continually been cowering away from trying to understand any other ways of life but our own. There are exceptions of course, but lately, the tendency seems to simply write off someone lifestyle we don't agree with. Our pompous attitudes far surpassed our accomplishments. We boast and brag, sometimes without intention, but still look for the upper hand. Think about the average conversation. A conversation may lead to someone trying to one-up the other person. The discussion can vary to who is having more stress or work or to what transpired over the weekend. Beating the Joneses' is no longer just about possessions; it is about how well one can exceed the other person in any subject. This notion coupled with the constant judgment passed between each person makes our perspective so much narrower.

Secondly, we need to learn how to hold an argument. The art of debate has diminished, not only in high schools across the country, but in everyday situations. It seems that, far too often, the discussion becomes overly heated and personal. I recognize that any debate-worthy discussion is of course personal on some level; however, any sort of professionalism and eloquence in supporting an argument has evolved into a matter of insulting the opposing person or counter argument. Just short of calling the other person an idiot, we have seemed to fall back to a childlike mentality, ultimately resulting in a ‘yea-huh' and ‘not-uh' battle. We have essentially lost our ability to keep our arguments in front of our natural reactions.

By changing things within each of us, we can start to respect the First Amendment, but this is a slow and stressful process. I believe that although administration and student centers approved this display, students should influence the decision. The anti-abortion group clearly knew about this, but what about the pro-choice group? Or women's rights group? This display was brought to campus in April, which is also known as sexual assault awareness month. I realize the anti-abortion group was looking for a response from students, even a negative response, but what would've been the outcome if a display about sexual assault awareness had also been on The Green? So many sexually assaulted women below the poverty line must get abortions; therefore, the two issues are directly linked.

Additionally, what if instead of a display, there had been an open discussion or debate about abortion by a panel of students and professionals along The Green. Students would not even realize it, but this could easily influence them, despite the constant distraction by their already occurring conversations, iPods and phones as they walk on the red bricks to class. Not only would this encourage freedom of speech and cause conversation among students, but it also would be much more educational than a large photograph of an aborted baby.

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17 comments

Fletcher Armstrong
Wed May 25 2011 10:06
Elsie, If abortion is such a good idea, why do pictures of it make you so angry? How can educating people about a common medical procedure be disrespectful in the least?

You talk a lot about equality, human rights, and freedom. Why do you then believe you have the right to decide which human beings may be killed and which may not?

You say that ours is a ���negative agenda.��� Yet if you ask the babies who have not been killed because their parents learned the truth about who the baby is and what abortion does, I dare say most of them tend to think of our efforts as rather positive. But don't think you are alone in your self-righteousness. Segregationists condemned MLK's agenda, which they also claimed was negative. To the slave traders, the agenda of Thomas Clarkson was also negative.

Naomi Wolf, one of the most celebrated feminists of the modern era and an ardent abortion supporter, questions anyone who is willing to support abortion without also having the stomach to face its violent reality. She says it this way:

���How can we charge that it is vile and repulsive for pro-lifers to brandish vile and repulsive images if the images are real? To insist that the truth is in poor taste is the very height of hypocrisy. Besides, if these images are often the facts of the matter, and if we then claim that it is offensive for pro-choice women to be confronted by them, then we are making the judgment that women are too inherently weak to face a truth about which they have to make a grave decision. This view of women is unworthy of feminism.���

It���s comical, and sad at the same time, to see you pay lip service to the First Amendment, but then propose that a committee, no doubt consisting of you and your cronies, should decide who gets free speech and who does not.

You want to have a discussion on The Green, but no pictures. That���s because the discussion you want to have is based on the twin myths that the preborn child is not a human being and abortion is not an act of violence. Pictures of abortion force you to defend abortion as it really is, an act of violence that kills a baby. I can see why you don���t want them there.

Fletcher Armstrong
Wed May 25 2011 09:27
part 3 of response to SLRGR:

There is only one way to justify abortion: to prove that the preborn child is not a living human being with equal moral status to the rest of us. By equal moral status, I am not talking about size, environment, level of development, or degree of dependency. These are different for every born human being and they change with time, as people grow up and then grow older. But they don���t determine our status as human beings with certain inalienable rights.

If the preborn child is not of equal moral status to the rest of us, then no justification of abortion is needed. But if she is of equal moral status, no justification is adequate (except to save the life of the mother).

(more in part 4)

Fletcher Armstrong
Wed May 25 2011 09:23
part 2 of response to SLRGR:

The biological classification of the preborn child is beyond debate. She is a living human being from the moment of conception. If you doubt this, consult medical school textbooks and even the writings of pro-abortion philosophers. Start with the quotes listed here: www.fletcherarmstrongblog.com/abortion-debate-part-3-the-unanswered-challenge/. At the end of this piece, there is a link to even more quotes.

Now that we know the preborn child is a living human being, then what justification allows us to kill her? If she may not be killed after birth, then how is it she may be killed before birth? What is the justification? What is different about that child one day before birth (when she may be legally aborted) and one day after birth?

(more in part 3)

Fletcher Armstrong
Wed May 25 2011 09:15
SLRGR, as I understand your question, you ask whether I agree that abortion should be an option if a woman is not willing and able to provide for the child. To answer your question, let���s start by supposing I have, standing next to me, a 2-year-old child. For whatever reason���perhaps the mother has lost her job and the toddler���s father has abandoned them���she is no longer able to care for the child. Would you say it is OK for somebody to kill that child, in order to (a) alleviate the mother of the burden of caring for the child and/or (b) relieve the child of the ���suffering��� she will endure because of the lack of resources to care for her.

Now, I���m taking for granted that you are a moral and sensible person, so you���re shaking your head and saying, ���Of course not; what a stupid question!��� Fine. So I ask, ���Why can���t somebody kill that toddler?��� To which you might correctly reply, ���Because she���s a human being, and it is immoral for anybody to unjustly take the life of another human being.��� You might even add, ���There are better solutions than violence for this circumstance.���

Ah, ha! Based on your answer, we must conclude that it isn���t the mother���s willingness/ability to care for the child that determines whether the child can be killed or not. The real question is the moral status of the child. Stated another way, ���Is this preborn child a human being whose rights must be respected?���

(more in part 2)

SLRGR
Mon May 23 2011 17:45
Dr. Armstrong:

I'm amazed that someone with your education in engineering would hold the views that you do. Wouldn't you agree that if a woman cannot be sure to a high degree of certainty that she will be able AND willing to care and provide for a child then she should not give birth to it? Or perhaps you disagree with the notion of trying to systematically improve the human species.

Tracy McQueen
Sat May 14 2011 13:42
I have a suggestion to the Anonymouses posting here: give yourself some sort of unique tag so that folks reading these posts can make sense about who's saying what! Better yet, be brave and include your full name! It won't hurt you and it can only add to your credibility. Keep on communicating!
Anonymous
Fri May 13 2011 20:56
I specifically said the display was not there to spark debate but that people were there to discuss it if onlookers wanted to. The display was there to raise awareness about an unpleasant topic. Im sure those people are just as offended by abortion as you are by people comparing it to genocide. This display was not targeted towards one person as your ���tirade��� of personal insults would be. That tirade could actually be considered illegal depending on what is said specifically (harassment, disorderly conduct, etc). GAP was exercising their right to assemble and thats that. It doesn���t matter what their message is��� really anything could in fact offend someone and then where would we be? A country too afraid to discuss anything because god forbid someone is offended?! Just because YOU were offended by the display does not mean their intent was to offend. Perhaps parents need to also raise their children to be accepting and respectful of others beliefs as well as to be a little more thick-skinned.
Anonymous
Fri May 13 2011 10:09
I would absolutely disagree with that comment. Making something offensive to someone will not spark debate, it will spark anger and quite possibly a beating. You're right-- the 1st amendment shouldn't be a concern here because the people who chose the offensive ways to communicate their message should have been taught by their mothers and/or fathers to be decent, mature individuals and to communicate in some other way than simply pissing people off. Point given-- maybe I think that there should be a law against people with a low IQ procreating... I could express it to you like I just did, and then give my reasons why. Or, I could just walk up to you and go into a long tirade using personal examples about you and about how if your parents hadn't procreated, this wouldn't even have been an issue at all. Would you have listened to that? No. You would have been offended, lashed back out at me in some manner, yadda yadda. Legally, I would have had the right to say those things under the 1st amendment. However, the first amendment was really not created with the intention of protecting ignorant jerks, it just has that unintended side effect now that social mores have decayed enough to allow people to be publicly offensive.

With your attitude of not caring if you offend people, further down the road you will accomplish nothing more than potentially inciting a riot or provoking someone into escalating the situation into one of physical violence, and no one will ever take you or others like you seriously.

Anonymous
Fri May 13 2011 01:06
There isn���t only one way to get a point across. Clearly, lectures and debates have been presented on this topic in the past. People were there to debate and support their beliefs if someone wished to engage them but the point of the display was to raise awareness and draw attention to the issue.

And the first amendment should not even been a concern in this case. Whether or not you���re offended doesn���t matter.

Anonymous
Thu May 12 2011 12:19
sorry, that second paragraph should read "to the"
Anonymous
Thu May 12 2011 12:19
To all of the previous commenters:
If any of you had actually read the article, you will notice she is critiquing the methods of your approach, not your message. This is exactly the point she is making- you all want a fight, an argument, a spectacle, not an open minded discussion to explore where the other side is coming from- which involves making concessions and admitting the other side has a valid point, even if you might not agree with it.

The the individual who makes the (valid) point that the protesters were not approached to ask why they held the belief that they do, I refer you back to Elise's point-- when some creates an extremely personal, offensive, graphic display, people don't WANT to approach that person or understand the why or any of the beliefs behind it. That antagonistic approach makes the person trying to communicate unapproachable, and automatically pins them as someone who is unwilling to DISCUSS. When something like that is seen, it is generally understood that the people behind it want to create a spectacle to get a reaction, and to cause controversy. The difference between looking for a fight and looking to understand, if you will. So maybe if what your aim is, is to have people approach you to discuss what you have to say, you should try tactics that are less aggressive (feel free to reference the other previous comments where they are demanding a debate from her, when in fact she offers no viewpoint other than indicating she has issue with the methods used), rather than scaring away the people you are trying to reach.

For you others: grow up.

Anonymous
Wed May 11 2011 04:55
It's not a matter of abortion it's a matter of life or murder. Women want the government to protect their right to take a life. That is the issue. Who the hell do they think they are?
Rae Stabosz
Tue May 10 2011 22:18
Ms. Jackson, I would like to see you take up Mr. Armstrong's challenge. Debate him on abortion, or find another person of your choice (heh) to debate him. Without censoring his message.
Anonymous
Tue May 10 2011 20:38
Dear Ms. Jackson,
Do you really want debate? Let's see. I will debate you on abortion at the University of Delaware. Or anyplace else. At any time. And if you're not up to the challenge, I'll debate anybody else you want to send up in your place. Only one non-negotiable rule: you can't censor my message.
C. Fletcher Armstrong, PhD
Southeast Director
Center for Bio-Ethical Reform
Anonymous
Tue May 10 2011 20:18
It's funny, every single person who I've heard has such a problem with the display didn't talk to any of the people responsible for it. They (you) assume that the pro-lifers have no logical arguments and are trying to just scare people or piss them off. I suggest you actually engage those who bring this display so you can learn something. Last time I checked, no issue has ever been solved when it was ignored.
Anonymous
Tue May 10 2011 18:20
Pro-Life Vanguard and other groups have sponsored academic debates about abortion on campus. Last December there was a panel discussion on abortion in Kirkbride and around 20 people showed up. PLV has had other speakers and events with Q&A and usually a few vocal opponents in the audience but again the numbers aren't too big. Unfortunately the Review also did not cover most of these other events in the last year or so.
Anonymous
Tue May 10 2011 11:57
if you've ever thought about law school, consider another career






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